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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffMonte B Cowboy Date: Nov 22, 2012 11:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: American Masters (indirectly Dead related if you follow me))

I compared the guy to myself. We're at opposite ends of the spectrum was my point. Lying on his resume and revealing the truth about it is very admirable. No one would know this unless he was honest about it. The way he covered his tracks is clever, and I enjoyed that.

No one is perfectly impeccable, as far as I know. The Eagles were pretty unhappy about Geffen selling them to Warner without telling them anything up front, and they said so. They were managed and run by Geffen and Asylum. The Eagles trusted Geffen with everything. They read in the papers that Asylum had merged with Elektra. That's how The Eagles learned they had been sold by Geffen to Warner Communications. Geffen never told them anything. That's pretty heavy stuff.

Also, Geffen sued Neil Young for falling short on his expectations to produce profits after he hired Neil to be creative in the first place. Neil was pretty unhappy about Geffen suing him for trying to be creative - when that's what he was hired to do, and he said so. That was pretty funny, but I wouldn't want to be sued by this guy. Geffen dropped the lawsuit later on.

There were plenty of betrayal stories to go around in this documentary. Geffen and myself hated betrayals and we both admire honesty and loyalty. I respect him for that, and I said so. My experiences as broadcast engineer in the entertainment industry are full of betrayals and scams. I was burned several times on deals. I know nothing of this business from his end, and I am saying so. I thought it was a good story.

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Poster: Reade Date: Nov 23, 2012 10:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: American Masters (indirectly Dead related if you follow me))

The clips of what Young was up to in the early eighties were pretty hilarious ('Sample and Hold'). Some pretty goofy stuff in retrospect. It's one of those deals where I can totally understand where both parties were coming from in that dispute. And to Geffin's credit he dropped the suit after thinking better of it.
The Eagles issue was a business deal and yeah it was cold for the whole thing to go down that way, without he Geffen even telling them. But as the film makes clear he was responsible- in every way- for their mega-success in the first place.
More interesting to me in that instance was how the film made clear the business model for Asylum Records (taking unknowns with alot of talent, paying their rent, dentist bills, etc., while they honed their craft and found their creative voice) proved unsustainable after the artists in question got famous and rich. What's left at that point? Trying to get Crosby's special weed to him in NY, making sure others had the right color of M&Ms in their dressing room...?
A stunning illustration of how an idea, concept, business model, whatever, can become outdated even given Outrageous Success initially. Things change no matter what! Which might be another Grateful Dead tie-in to this story.